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Only about 15% of time, money, and manpower is spent on espionage, as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion or active measures, [a Russian word] in the land of the KGB, or psychological warfare.
What it basically means is to change the perception of reality of every American to such an extent that, despite the abundance of information, no one is able to come to sensible conclusionsi in the interest of defending themselves, their families, there community, and their country.
It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided in four basic stages the first one being . . .
Demoralization.
It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years [it] requires to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy; exposed to the ideology of the enemy. In other words Marxism-Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least three generations of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism; American patriotism.
The result? The result you can see. Most of the people who graduated in the [19]60s, dropouts or half-baked intellectuals, are now occupying the positions of power in the government, civil service, business, mass media, educational system. You are stuck with them. You cannot get rid of them. They are contaminated. They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern.
You cannot change their mind, even if you expose them to authentic information. Even if you prove that white is white and black is black. You still cannot change the basic perception and illogical behavior. In other words, [in] these people, the process of demoralization is complete and irreversible. To get rid (sic) society of these people you need another 20 or 15 years to educate a new generation of patriotically minded and common sense people who would be acting in favor and in the interests of the United States society.
INTERVIEWER: And yet these people have been programmed, and as you say, in place who are favorable to an opening with the Soviet concept. These are the very people who would be marked for extermination in this country?
Bezmenov: Most of them, yes. Simply because the psychological shock when will see in the future what the beautiful society of equality and social justice means in practice. Obviously they will revolt. They will be very unhappy, frustrated people. And [a]Marxist-Leninist regime does not tolerate these people. Obviously they will join the leagues of dissenters; dissidents.
Unlike in [the] present United States, there will be no place for dissent in future Marxist-Leninist America. Here you can get popular like Daniel Ellsberg, and filthy rich like Jane Fonda for being dissident, for criticizing your Pentagon. In the future these people will be simply squashed like cockroaches. Nobody is going to pay them nothing for their beautiful, noble ideas of equality. This they don't understand, and it will be greatest shock for them, of course.
The demoralization process in the United States is basically completed already. For the last 25 years. Actually it's over fulfilled, because demoralization now reaches such areas were previously not even Comrade Andropov and all his experts would even dream of such a tremendous success. Most of it is done by Americans to Americans thanks to lack of moral standards.
As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore. A person who is demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures. Even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him concentration camps, he will refuse to believe it, until he is going to receive a kick in his fat bottom. When a military boot crashes his [posterior]. Then he will understand, but not before then.
That's the tragic [nature] of the situation of demoralization.
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